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- Understanding Covenant Eschatology-
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High Time to Address These Crucial Questions
By
B. E. Kimball
Man always makes known his personal belief-systems (doctrines)
according to his expertise in the knowledge and understanding of the Scriptures. As he progresses in this knowledge, there must be a willingness to change when new truths are realized. Thus, we, like
the reformers of old, must always be willing to embrace new and fresh insights
of the Scriptures when presented to us and not continue holding to man's dogmas because of peer pressure or any other
sort of personal influence that may arise by way of church, family, employment or most probably for the sake of unity.
I would like to strongly suggest to you that it is high time to reconsider some doctrinal issues that you may believe were settled long ago. Let me pose just a few of these for
you to keep in mind as you continue in this quest for a better understand of the Scriptures:
- Was Jesus mistaken when He promised
He would return the second time in that generation? Why are some still waiting
for His return after it has been 2000 plus years since He promised that He would return? Was Jesus lying or could it be that
He was a false prophet as Scripture would suggest when a prophecy does not come true? Did He have to come up with an alternative
plan for a future arrival date or perhaps today’s most prevalent teaching of a future coming is in error? Could this
inconsistency be one of the reasons why some, if not most, brilliant people do not believe in or trust the Bible?
- Do you find it interesting that Daniel’s
prophecy was to occur in less than 600 years (586 BC) and he was told to seal up his
prophecy because it was still a long time away. In contrast, the prophecy of the second coming was not to be sealed because that time was at hand, not 2000 years later
(and still counting) as many are claiming today? Could God be as confused about time as we apparently are?
- Is Jesus coming back again in our
future - or has He already come? The Bible only talks about a Second Coming nothing is said about a Third Coming. What about
the spiritual gifts today? What is left for Preterists to look forward to? What portions of the Scripture have not yet been
fulfilled?
- Did you seek the Lord and choose salvation
or did the Lord perform a work in your heart first that opened your eyes unto the
truth of salvation as He called you? If man’s free will is true, would it
then have been a possibility that no one would have accepted the Lord, making His sacrifice on the cross to none effect? Did
Jesus have to look into the future to be sure that someone would will to choose
His plan of salvation? Can your will really override God’s will? Is man’s will God’s or is God’s will
man’s…?
- Is salvation by grace alone or are some works needed, such as water
baptism? If even the smallest portion of works were to be added to saving grace, would it still be grace or just another system
of works? Is Christianity different from all other religions because man’s works are not needed for salvation? Does
not the Bible tell us that the good works come after salvation, because it is the Lord’s power working in us that causes
us to do these good works?
6. Was the flood during Noah’s time global, or was it
a regional flood? Does the Book of Genesis explain the Book of Revelation and visa-versa? Are these two books tied together
in a most impressive and needful way? Is it probable that the same wording that
is found in the local event of Sodom and Gomorrah holds the key to understanding
that the flood and second coming of Jesus were physically local events too?
- Should we let the Bible reveal truths
by using Scripture to understand Scripture or dare we use the speculations and traditions of others instead? Would the best
way be to let Scripture define Scripture on a spiritual level, but not to the degree where it would deny proven observable
and scientific facts in the physical level? Wouldn’t we need both the spiritual discernment of the Bible and the physical
observations of science, so that we as Christians would not make nonsense of the Bible to those we are witnessing to? Is this
yet another reason why learned infidels scorn the Christian faith? How did geocentric ideas get started?
- Is the world only about 6,000 years
old or is it actually much older as scientific studies demonstrate? In Jesus’ time, was the world (this earth) thought
of as a sphere? And did they understand the workings of our solar system?
- Can you rightly believe in an old
earth and a future second coming of Christ at the same time and still have consistency and truth in your conclusions? Can
you rightly believe in a young earth and also hold to a past view of the second coming? If not, why not? Is it because both
of these two views are inconsistent? Shouldn’t we believe in an old earth
and a past second coming to accurately dovetail the truths of Holy Scripture?
- Was the Old Testament plan so faulty that a totally New Testament had to be introduced? Did God have to come up with a Plan B? Should there
be a gap between the Old and New Testaments? Is the gap theory of Genesis correct? Shouldn’t both testaments be read
as one continuous covenantal event?
- If you were to believe in a young
earth, would this theory, because of the very short time span to date, even make Darwin shake his head in unbelief?
- If you took every word in the Bible
in an absolutely literal sense, would you find Scripture contradictory to other
passages of Scripture? Shouldn’t we then use Scripture and God’s physical
creation, mixed with personal humility, to discern truth and establish our conclusions?
- Are some translations more accurate
than others? Should their origins be of any concern? Are some of the most popular translations taken from corrupt manuscripts?
Do you understand why dynamic equivalence is used by modern translators, but a
word-for-word method was used by the King James Version translators? Why are the oldest texts that are available to us today corrupt? Could it be that the oldest texts that
we still have available to us today are still intact and in good shape because of non-use?
14. Do all of the Bible translations into the English language reflect the true meaning
of words, and are they being used as they were originally intended and understood? Haven’t we in our short lifetime
already seen many word meanings change?
- When we talk in phrases, peoples of
other languages and dialects do not understand what we mean, because they take those exact words literally. Should we be doing the same thing when understanding the Scriptures?
- Will this world/earth ever end? Must
the world become evil in order to usher in the second coming? Is this belief why Christians have left their civic responsibilities
to the ungodly? Should we be waiting for the rapture to end our problems? Isn’t this still the same world physically that God called a very good creation? Did Adam’s sin really change the physical world
as seen now?
- Are there special groups of people
today, such as the Jews, or are all believers under God’s one and only covenant?
What about futurist dispensational teachings?
- If the global flood doctrine is in
error, does this mean that the world/earth will still be consumed by fire sometime
in our future? Is the tribulation still in our future? Has all of Scripture been fulfilled? What unfulfilled prophecies might still await us in the future if any?
- Are you aware that if you logically
take the doctrine of a young earth to its conclusion, it would have to prove evolution, which is a false belief? Actually,
wouldn’t it have to be a hyper-evolution? And the doctrine of a global flood,
wouldn’t it also have to prove this same conclusion of evolution? Wouldn’t the extremely brief period of time since Noah, be one of the major keys in understanding this truth?
- If a hyper-literal interpretation distorts the intent and meaning of the Bible, shouldn’t we then embrace all of the
Scriptures as covenantal statements and not as scientific documents of the physical
world and of our future events?
- Could those who favorably use futurist
and young earth teachings to evangelize others, actually be bringing God’s Word under an unfortunate and needless rebuke
by those who can see doctrinal errors in these teachings, such as the Muslims? Can we witness to Muslims if they see how these
doctrines cause us to be unfairly partial to the Jews? Do these false teachings also cause some to remain Bible skeptics and
atheists? By espousing these false doctrines of futurism and young earth teachings, are we then also standing with the modern
day cults that teach these same errors? How about the liberals who also treat God’s Word carelessly and unjustly? Are
we literally teaching them that Jesus was in error and that the Bible can not be trusted?
- If we had the answers to these and
other questions, might we then have a wholesome brotherly unity instead of the false ecumenical unity of today? Can we sacrifice biblical doctrine for an empty unity? Would
this be the correct way to ‘‘build bridges” between opposing religious groups? Would you agree that we can
not simply have unity on the premise of “no doctrines at all” as many liberals understand fellowship? Nor can
we have unity solely in a belief of Preterism as are only determining criteria. Can we have unity in a preterist movement when some of the members hold to an Arminian
theology that insists on man’s good works for salvation, such as baptismal regeneration and a faith that allows man’s
will preeminence over Gods? Others are of the Calvinistic persuasion that correctly teaches and proves God to be God and gives
explanation as to why man’s will and works are only a secondary work or means
in God’s sovereign plan? The differences between these two diametrically opposed
faiths are where the battles should be centered and not in trivial differences
of eschatology, that pale in comparison to such doctrines as salvation by God’s grace alone. Is this not correct?
- It may very well be true that Preterism,
a fulfilled eschatology of all biblical prophecies, has the ability to prove all of the Scriptures in the Bible to be correct
to the liberals, skeptics, atheists and the like, which is very fortunate for us that are witnessing to these people. However,
if the truth is that God does His own choosing of men for salvation, then we must keep these basic truths and fundamental
doctrines strong and in tact, honoring our Sovereign Lord’s ability to do His own work. We are only messengers of God’s
Word; God will make the changes in the hearts of men, not us. Should we not then keep our priorities in order and build our unity with the brethren on sound exegesis in such a manner that is pleasing to God? Lets not attempt
to force GOD to accept our systems.
The Scriptures, my brethren, are provided,
inspired and preserved by the LORD. It is our responsibility to uphold, rightly discern and comply. May the Lord, through His Holy Spirit, give us the strength and determination
to continue with this struggle in search of divine truth!
THE END…
Or Possibly
THE BEGINNING?
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Please join with us and take your important part in:
Understanding Covenant Eschatology.
We can NOT understand the end of a story (Revelations) without fully
understanding the beginning (Genesis).
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CONTINUITY
OF THE BIBLE AS ONE
UNBROKEN COVENANTAL MESSAGE
OLD COVENANT (OF LAW)
TO THE NEW COVENANT (OF GRACE)
To Ultra-simplify what the content and intent of the Bible is and what Holy Scripture is
actually meaning to convey to us, from the first book of Genesis of the Old Covenant to the last book of the New Testament
the book of Revelation, lets keep in mind, when reading and studying, that the entirety of the Bible is to be understood in simple terms of moving from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant.
And for us to be in God’s favor we must be under His Covenant.
[. . .When we view the Bible as one story,
we discover that “new covenant” principles begin early in Genesis – the gospel is revealed before the fall
– and the last of the “old covenant” shadows pass away, in finality, at the end of Revelation. This is impossible
to grasp when Christians habitually think of the Bible as two segments divided by that blank “New Testament” page.]…
(This excerpt is taken from page 421 of BEYOND CREATION SCIENCE).
The Holy Scripture was written and preserved
so that the-common-man could understand its concepts and principles! The one and only theme of Holy Writ is to demonstrate
the fact that Adam, our legal representative of mankind, forfeited the kingdom to Satan by sinning (breaking the Covenant
with God) and from that time on God selected a special people, lets refer to them for now as the Israelites, who were to perform
daily ritualistic tasks such as animal blood sacrifices allowing and making
possible for the sins of the people to be rolled ahead to the predetermined time when the Second Adam (Christ) would return and
pay-in-full for these sins with His precious blood ushering in the New Covenant. This was accomplished at Calvary.
But from Calvary to The Second Coming in A.D.70 there was a time frame
of forty years (one generation) known as the Transitional Period [see Chart by ES]. The purpose of this Transitional Period was to allow time for the Jews to understand this truth and to convert from the Old Covenant
(physical-laws-bondage) to the New Covenant (spiritual-Grace-freedom).
There has always been just one special group of Covenantal Peoples and it is not just
the Jews anymore, it is anyone who belongs
to Christ Jesus. This believing group of people is known today as the Church. The Church is now the Israel of God. Jesus does
not have different special groups of people. There is only one plan of salvation and one people under our Lord.
Basically that is the Bibles entire premise; moving
from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant! I am not implying that
the Old Covenant was destroyed because it was not good but that the New Testament/Covenant, which is much better, came from
and grew out of the truth of the Old Testament/ Covenant. Christ Jesus did not come to destroy
the law but to fulfill the law and then impute His righteousness
unto us.
Nothing has been or is a surprise to The All Mighty; Everything He has done and is still
doing has perfect timing and placement. You do not have to be a rocket scientist or a mathematician to understand the plan
of God. Understanding the intent of the Bible is in itself a very simple plan and purpose. The Word of God has no intent of
explaining all the wonders of the earth, the solar systems and or other unrelated secular questions. The Bible’s
purpose explains only the relationship needed between you and GOD for salvation in Covenantal terms!
This being the utmost meaning and intention of the Scriptures you will have to
constantly keep in mind that all events
mentioned in the Scriptures are designed for this one and only central purpose and time frame. Do not allow such modern
teachings as 'Futurism' to complicate this one and only pure truth into a gap of 2000 plus years to date (as if God had to
come up with a Plan-B) with its many hermeneutical twists, erroneous postponement theories, ever changing 'date setting' perplexities
and typical false prophecies! Let's give ALL the credit and honor to the LORD and not to man and especially not to Satan who has been totally defeated! Embrace our GOD given freedoms and stand with the Modern Reformation Movement
in exposing the fear, bondage and intimidation tactics of these false futuristic world ending doctrine mongers and supposed 'pending tribulation' teachings now! And earnestly search the Scriptures daily as did the
faithful Bereans whose efforts are now accurately recorded in the book of Acts. This will enable you to discern
if certain teachings of men are or are not true to the Scriptures...Sola Scriptura!
[The
real reason the influence of secular unbelief is so great in our day lies in the widespread failure of Christians to understand the Bible in its own context and present real Christianity to the world. Many
turn the Bible into a scientific statement from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelation. David goes out to battle
wearing Saul’s armor.
Christians
have lost influence in Western society precisely because they have presented falsehood-
whether young-earth creationism on one end of the Bible or futurism on the other – on the authority of God’s Word.
Christians have lost influence in Western society precisely because Christians
have not thought deeply or acted wisely in response to the cultural challenges modernity presents to the Christian faith.
The modern
Christian alternative to the impotent worldview of secular materialism is too often a sterile gospel of retreatism, pessimism,
irrelevancy, and silly provincialism. On the Right, it is a gospel that cares for little beyond “soul-winning”
and personal pietism. On the Left it is a gospel reduced to political policy and social action. In both cases only an enfeebled
counterfeit of Christianity is presented. It should be no surprise that secular materialism or new age mysticism claims children
who grow up in American churches by the droves. A hybridized gospel simply cannot reproduce itself from one generation to
another. The real problem is not “them” – it is “us.” (An excerpt from BEYOND CREATION SCIENCE
pg. 425, paragraph 1-3.)]…
In
opposition to the false beliefs of a Young Earth and its future soon ending in
disaster should explain why [While old-earth creationism is expanding the time perspective of the past for some Christians,
Preterism is expanding the time perspective toward the future for others. These two groups within the Church are a perfect
match for each other, and have been for more than a hundred years. (An excerpt from BEYOND CREATION SCIENCE pg. 430)]…
[…
In the recent past many have sought unity among God’s people by downplaying or ignoring the real theological differences
among historic traditions within the Church. This strategy of “ecumenism” has never accomplished much of lasting
value. Either the concept of truth is sacrificed altogether, leading to a shallow, irrelevant, and impotent Christianity,
or the areas of unity are reduced to a tiny sphere. Christians are sometimes forced into unity by outside pressures and threats.
(Excerpt taken from the new book BEYOND CREATION SCIENCE pg. 440.)]
The USA with all of its freedom is quickly being lost. The Christians that believe in these tragic
futurist misconceptions and a yet future rapture and a near-by Armageddon have left their GOD-given responsibilities
and privileges. This abandonment leaves the once-Christian USA to say nothing about the rest of the world, to such
evils as the ACLU, the liberal judges, courts and law makers, anti-creationism, anti-prayer, gay [same sex] marriage,
partial birth abortion, the total acceptance of porn of every degree, human cloning, removing of the Ten Commandments, the
homo-sexuals, the Family Planning Centers and child molesters such as MANBLA [Man BoyLove Association which is backed by the
ACLU, just to mention only a very few! Also be aware that these false leaders are the same ones that are advising our decision-making Presidents and is controlling the Jewish
situation in Israel [A supposed special
people of GOD] by way of a bankrupt agenda.
When
Jesus uttered the words, "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled" (Mt. 24:34; Mk. 13:30; Lu.
21:32), He meant His own generation.
Jesus said He would return before His generation died. This may sound shocking to some, but it's true! The Second Coming of
Christ has already happened. Jesus returned (just as He said He would) when the city of Jerusalem and
the Jewish Temple were destroyed by the Romans in A.D. 70.
If Jesus returned
within His generation,
then the Futurist
view is a lie.
If Jesus didn’t return within His generation,
then Christianity
is a lie.
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What
will you say to GOD when asked about these evils? You will have no choice but to say "Oh, I was told by my preacher
or my TV evangelist that the world had to become more and more evil so that you (Christ Jesus) could come back and rapture
us out." The LORD will say to you, "Didn't you read the Bible that I had so carefully preserved for you over the many
centuries? I told you in my very own Words that the exact opposite was true in so many ways and so many times!" I know what I will say: “LORD, I tried to warn them.”
[Important Notice: For an in depth analysis and cogent insight pertaining to these details concerning the New Covenant, GOD's
one and only Covenant and what it means for us in todays world please study the NEW COVENANT CREATION FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION by Timothy P. Martin & Jeffery L. Vaughn, PhD.
Note of Importance:
If you think that I am overstating our situation
how would you explain one of the latest judicial decisions where not only your land but all of your property can be taken
under the newly rewritten law of Eminent Domain? What made us free men in a free
country was the fact that man could own his own land. Now anyone [even contractors] can
take your land for a variety of reasons which makes us none other than Indentured Servants [bondsmen]. We will continue to pay very high and ever increasingly higher taxes while maintaining this land [your
properties] until the time comes when that someone wants your property for whatever purpose. And what about
the evil subject matter that is being forced up our children in the public schools! What saith you dear servant? ~BEK
America’s Voice is Being Heard
Despite the pleas by the menacing alliance of tax-hungry municipalities and land-hungry developers to do nothing, legislators
across the country are quickly moving to fix their abysmal eminent domain laws. The problem of eminent domain abuse was highlighted
by the U.S. Supreme Court’s dreadful decision in Kelo v. City of New London, which gave governments the green light to take your
home or business and give it to a politically connected private developer because that developer might be able to produce
more taxes and more jobs off of your land.
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If we are to ever have peace in the middle-east,
If we are ever to see an end of terrorism, we must have an impact on American foreign policy. If we are to have an impact
on American foreign policy, we must have an impact on American politicians. If we are to have an impact on American politicians,
we must have an impact on Christians. We must proclaim the truth that the Church is “the Israel of God”.
- Why is the timing as to when Jesus returned or will return so important?
- If the truth isn’t made known then the Futurist lie will continue to be believed.
- If the Futurist lie is believed, then the Christians, Christian groups, and the
U.S.A., the British, and most all of the very powerful Christian and military world leaders will have been, and are, and will
continue to be mislead and deceived.
- Under the Futurist doctrine, they will be taught by their advisors and church leaders
that the Israelites are still God’s special, chosen people. Today, however,
the church that believes in Jesus Christ constitutes the chosen people of God.
- The world’s most powerful leaders will then be the ones that help these Jews
in every way with out any questions asked monetarily, militarily or any other way. They will be deluded into thinking they
are helping to fulfill a mission of God.
- These leaders will do anything to keep the Israelites in power and in their own
supposed land and will protect them from everyone, no matter how badly the Israelites conduct themselves. This is known as
Christian Zionism!
- This unquestioned and blind alliance will be seen by the rest of the world as if
a despot God is attacking innocent peoples.
- This will create a worldwide disruption such as terrorism, or something even worse!
- This terrorism will never end until GOD’s truth is known.
- The truth is that Jesus did come back in A.D. 70 and now there is only one people
and one salvation. There is no longer a distinction between Jew and gentile in the eyes of God, nor in His plans. The Church
has become the Israel of God.
- This is why the truth of Preterism needs to be made known to ALL. The time of the Lord’s return suddenly becomes intensely important to each and every individual.
~by David B. Curtis

Did you
know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF TIME? It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning the END
of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD. The Bible also promises that the physical world will never end ...just as the Christian
Age will never end. If this is true and it is ...then it should cause you great concern to realize that this country
and all of it's God given blessings and Christian duties/priviledges are being forsaken thus left to the Liberals (non-christians)
without regard or resistance. This is due to the modern false belief that our fight is useless because this 'physical' world
has to become continually more and more wicked by God's design. Then... at any time you will be 'rapture out' from these
problems. Don't believe it! Just because of a somewhat recent false belief in eschatology known as Dispensationalism,
the Futurist Position, which by the way tries to explain away the imminent nature of the Second Coming prophecies of the New
Testament rather than to explain them in positive terms, all is being lost. Check it out...you are as personally
responsible as anyone else. [world without end Eph. 3:21 KJV, the earth remains forever Ecclesiastes 1:4,
end of the age Matthews 13:39, 49, 24:3]
TO SHOWCASE MY POINT ...SEE THE LAST POSTED ARTICLE ON THIS PAGE
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POINTS TO PONDER:
Is Preterist
Theology truly HERETICAL as accused by today’s Futurist leaders and teachers? Which doctrine would actually prove to
be HERETICAL? Wouldn’t Jesus have to be considered as a false prophet if
He had NOT fulfilled His promises in the first century as the Scriptures plainly teach? How could Preterism possibly be a heretical doctrine if Jesus did fulfill His promises right on time in that first century as Biblical
disciplines command? Wouldn't it have to be considered heretical to believe that the Lord’s Word and the prophecies
of Jesus were in error?
If Jesus is a false prophet then my faith is in vain. If Jesus was mistaken in His predictions how can we then rely
on Him for salvation or anything else?
But don't despair, Jesus is GOD and there is NO OTHER, leaving us with the only possible conclusion: His Word being true would have to mean that the Futurists interpretations concerning
future events have to be rethought and greatly adjusted. Those future events then were in the Apostles future but now
have been fulfilled! All Biblical prophecies are now in our past. This
is extremely good news . . .
-THINK ABOUT IT-

When you interpret the Bible here are some questions to ask:
1. What is the subject
matter?
2. Who is writing, talking,
or teaching?
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